Sunday, January 1, 2012

A great post that explained Tsurara and Kana scene in chapter 184

Found a great post in tieba that explained the japanese words and possible meaning in the tsurara and kana scene. Sadly this thread got deleted (what a waste, some of the replies were really great) and I only managed to save the cached page.

Hope the poster doesnt mind me reposting in english :P

家长さん、リクオ様の帰る场所でいてあげてね」
「・・・うん」
(家长さん あなたは人として生きるリクオ様にはきっと必要な方だと思います)
(少しくやしいけど お愿いね)
(でもね これから50年・・・100年と一番近くでお慕いするのは つららなんですから!)





「リクオ様の帰る场所でいてあげてね」
the mangaka is very cunning, using this type of ambiguous speech, the chinese team directly translated it as "Please become Rikuo sama's returning lodge." [请成为陆生大人的归宿吧] It sounds as if Tsurara had entrust Rikuo to Kana. But the japanese meaning is not so straightforward. The mangaka did not mention where is rikuo's [帰る场所] place to return to.




The important point in hundred stories clan arc is the relationship between Rikuo and humans. Tsurara's inner thoughts said that if Rikuo wants to continue living as a human, Kana is a must. This clearly states that Rikuo's returning place is the human life before hundred clan arc.The life before people know he is a half youkai. What Tsurara want to express is that when Rikuo returns to his human life, she wish Kana will be by his side. This is something Tsurara as a youkai cannot accomplish. That's why she said that it's vexing. In this sentence, there isn't any romantic implications, or "defeated in love" meaning. The mangaka did not state clearly but let Tsurara said this kind of words.

これから50年・・・100年と一番近くでお慕いするのは つららなんですから!

Since she is not human, it's impossible for her to accept Rikuo and make him happy as a human. A bit vexing, but even it's 50 years or 100 years later, the one closest to Waka, like Waka the most will be me Tsurara! The poster remembers "Must remember this point!" is written in the corner of the manga. That's to say, do you see any signs of defeat? She is 吃果果的表白 (can't find the right words to translate this. Literally translate as she eats the candies expression. a victorious feeling. smug?)

The poster felt that the importance of this scene is the relationship of these 2 girls. It does not involve Rikuo. Everyone knows how Tsurara felt about Kana in the past. In this scene, Tsurara approved of Kana. It's a youkai to human sort of approval. Kana, as a human, can understand youkai rikuo, this makes the rikuo-centric Tsurara approved her. Tsurara understands the importance Rikuo has for humans, so she thinks that Rikuo needs some humans who can understand him by his side. As for why Tsurara had acknowledged Kana who was unproductive in this whole arc, and not Kiyotsugu who worked very hard in making people believe in Rikuo, the poster also did not understand. Can only say that maybe that's because Kana is the lead female.

In conclusion, these sentences are very ambiguous. Seeming set up Kana as the girl who will end up with Rikuo, but after analysis, harem route still exists.

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I remember in one of the replies, the poster said that japanese will usually use another phrase of words to entrust someone to another if there's any romance implications. And also that when tsurara said those words to kana, the latter did not blush or anything.

finally got this out of my system.

4 comments:

  1. So... Does that mean Tsurara still has a chance with Rikuo even though she approves of Kana?

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    1. Yes of course ^^ this chapter just shows growth in tsurara's maturity by accepting kana. The ritsu fans were just upset and fear that by drawing this, mangaka will lean more towards rikuoxkana

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  2. I... still have no clue as to why Kana is posted as a "lead," seeing as how the only moments she pops up within the manga is when she needs to be rescued; even if she's with a group of friends. Anyway, the manga thus far (though it's non-shoujo) seems to be leading towards Tsurara's favor in a lot of cases. I read one part where Rikuo's mother approved of Tsurara as being something that will make her son happy. The last chapter will be out soon, so maybe there will be a conclusion. I still believe Tsurara's chances are highest though... Just saying.

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    1. I think she can be considered as a lead in the first quarter of the series. Without her as a love rival, I don't think I will love tsurara x rikuo ship this much. So kana is useful actually. Hehehehehe

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